[Mon Mar 30 20:59:42 PDT 2009] sayee Gm verru and all [Mon Mar 30 21:13:52 PDT 2009] ranjanvipul gm everyone here [Mon Mar 30 21:15:14 PDT 2009] veerappan above 3016 i will use the word buy... below 3016 sell... above 3016-3034-3054-3075-3099-3140... below 3016-3009-2972-2931-2906 balance we will c it live mkts [Mon Mar 30 21:19:07 PDT 2009] PVS veerappan sir..banknifty range? [Mon Mar 30 21:21:58 PDT 2009] nac8 gm evrybdy [Mon Mar 30 21:28:06 PDT 2009] dhiren how ab axis bank sell or buy [Mon Mar 30 21:29:29 PDT 2009] veerappan if u have taken at 3016 above means just take the profit now 3032- 16 pts plus [Mon Mar 30 21:31:44 PDT 2009] veerappan buy axis bank 404 with sl 396 target of 411-416-423 [Mon Mar 30 21:35:50 PDT 2009] jimmie Gm [Mon Mar 30 21:37:16 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Axis bank brought [Mon Mar 30 21:37:26 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV gm [Mon Mar 30 21:38:50 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV (veeru any idea why market went up..just curious) [Mon Mar 30 21:39:08 PDT 2009] vicky2005 elections [Mon Mar 30 21:40:09 PDT 2009] veerappan market may fall prab... below 3016 [Mon Mar 30 21:40:49 PDT 2009] jimmie St sir ur levels are Ns or Nf ? [Mon Mar 30 21:41:36 PDT 2009] Digvijay Axis Sl trig [Mon Mar 30 21:41:57 PDT 2009] veerappan below 3016 sell nif with sl 3035 [Mon Mar 30 21:42:23 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Axis Bank :( [Mon Mar 30 21:42:37 PDT 2009] vicky2005 axis bank :( [Mon Mar 30 21:42:41 PDT 2009] veerappan go for 3000 puts 121... with sl 102 [Mon Mar 30 21:42:47 PDT 2009] veerappan buy buy with risk of 19 pts [Mon Mar 30 21:42:55 PDT 2009] veerappan ya axis hit at 396 [Mon Mar 30 21:48:24 PDT 2009] SwingTrader jimmie: Nf [Mon Mar 30 21:50:48 PDT 2009] jimmie ok thanks sir [Mon Mar 30 21:51:46 PDT 2009] vicky2005 veerappan target of Nifty put? [Mon Mar 30 21:54:47 PDT 2009] veerappan upside 145-152-160 also possiblee [Mon Mar 30 21:55:45 PDT 2009] Digvijay bye guys [Mon Mar 30 22:08:26 PDT 2009] veerappan if u need just take it 2996 [Mon Mar 30 22:08:31 PDT 2009] veerappan 3000 put is 131 [Mon Mar 30 22:15:10 PDT 2009] jimmie where to book veeru ? [Mon Mar 30 22:15:15 PDT 2009] jimmie can we book Nf short ? [Mon Mar 30 22:18:55 PDT 2009] dhiren how ab axisbank buy or sell [Mon Mar 30 22:19:36 PDT 2009] dhiren axisbank minimum target [Mon Mar 30 22:21:49 PDT 2009] veerappan sell reliance capital at 335 with sl 348... target of 328-321-315 [Mon Mar 30 22:22:02 PDT 2009] veerappan please take care of the profits..... [Mon Mar 30 22:22:09 PDT 2009] veerappan run the show with profit side sl [Mon Mar 30 22:30:30 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Rel Cap running towards Sl :( [Mon Mar 30 22:31:28 PDT 2009] sayee morning nifty booked for 10 points [Mon Mar 30 22:31:43 PDT 2009] sayee now rel cap shorted at 334 [Mon Mar 30 22:32:00 PDT 2009] sayee hope get profit in rel cap [Mon Mar 30 22:38:15 PDT 2009] rameshanand hi veeru this ramesh from chennai-perambur newly joined to this group [Mon Mar 30 22:44:36 PDT 2009] PVS st sir, morning i have asked about bank nifty...nobody answer me.. [Mon Mar 30 22:45:08 PDT 2009] SwingTrader Pvs: what was your question? one min....let me check the message history. [Mon Mar 30 22:45:47 PDT 2009] SwingTrader Pvs: veeru probably didn't see your message....did you post the question again? [Mon Mar 30 22:46:00 PDT 2009] PVS no sir.. [Mon Mar 30 22:46:32 PDT 2009] SwingTrader do you still want that info? I'll check with Veeru now and see what he says. [Mon Mar 30 22:46:55 PDT 2009] PVS no sir.. [Mon Mar 30 22:48:22 PDT 2009] SwingTrader ok [Mon Mar 30 22:48:29 PDT 2009] veerappan if and only if trades above 4100 only buy bank nifty pvs... just i saw now sorry [Mon Mar 30 22:48:40 PDT 2009] veerappan pvs sometime it may happend dear.... just i saw [Mon Mar 30 22:50:41 PDT 2009] PVS it's ok sir..thanks.. [Mon Mar 30 22:54:34 PDT 2009] lisha3000 Veerappan ji Good Morning. I'm new to this. Pls do needfull.tks [Mon Mar 30 22:54:52 PDT 2009] lisha3000 Hope in this same window u give calls na [Mon Mar 30 22:55:12 PDT 2009] tripathi_manu yes lisha [Mon Mar 30 22:55:35 PDT 2009] lisha3000 Ok tks [Mon Mar 30 23:06:44 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Rel Cap :( [Mon Mar 30 23:07:16 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Veeru : Nf above 3016 shall we square of Rel Cap @ Cmp?? [Mon Mar 30 23:07:20 PDT 2009] veerappan buy nifty 3016-3017 with sl 3008 [Mon Mar 30 23:07:27 PDT 2009] veerappan target of 3035-3048 [Mon Mar 30 23:07:35 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV 344 (-9) [Mon Mar 30 23:08:45 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Veeru...please confirm Rel Cap...!! [Mon Mar 30 23:09:02 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Sl given was 348..cmp 344 [Mon Mar 30 23:09:30 PDT 2009] veerappan ya prab...still its weak only rel capital above 348 only its a buy [Mon Mar 30 23:09:46 PDT 2009] veerappan with out sl dont do ... otherwise we will loose heavily [Mon Mar 30 23:10:32 PDT 2009] rajat_arora9 time to move down [Mon Mar 30 23:10:52 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Veeru it was your call [Mon Mar 30 23:11:10 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV to short Rel Cap at 335 with Sl 348 [Mon Mar 30 23:11:20 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV i am still holding short [Mon Mar 30 23:11:28 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV please advice what to do asap [Mon Mar 30 23:12:19 PDT 2009] veerappan if u r shot in rel capital go double long above 348-349 .... - now u got it [Mon Mar 30 23:12:48 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV you mean book the loss and go long double? [Mon Mar 30 23:13:43 PDT 2009] veerappan dont book loss ... above that level only u shd cover and go long... otherwise no ....as per my charts [Mon Mar 30 23:14:06 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV ok then holding it..currently it in loss -9 points [Mon Mar 30 23:14:28 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Axis Bank already went in loss -9 points [Mon Mar 30 23:19:18 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Sl hit in Rel Cap Cmp 348 [Mon Mar 30 23:19:35 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV now long Double the lot [Mon Mar 30 23:19:50 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Veeru what is Sl for long in Relcap?? [Mon Mar 30 23:23:40 PDT 2009] ProTrader Prab: Rel Cap Sl has not been hit yet. [Mon Mar 30 23:24:26 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV seems my Icici has executed the order at 347.45 for some reason :) [Mon Mar 30 23:24:34 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV i set for 348 :( [Mon Mar 30 23:24:47 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV reversing it back to short [Mon Mar 30 23:25:06 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV with same Sl 348 [Mon Mar 30 23:25:16 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV ( :( ) [Mon Mar 30 23:26:25 PDT 2009] veerappan L&t buy 668 withsl 659...take a risk of 9- target of 678-683-690 [Mon Mar 30 23:28:45 PDT 2009] veerappan ya it was not hit so for... but if it hits go long with sl 340... buy above 348 only...with the target of 352-364 range [Mon Mar 30 23:28:58 PDT 2009] veerappan nav game started i think take care [Mon Mar 30 23:28:59 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Lnt brought at 668 with Sl 659 [Mon Mar 30 23:29:42 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV losses are mounting...hope loss will recover soon..!! [Mon Mar 30 23:29:44 PDT 2009] veerappan buy tisco at 204 with sl 199.... with strict stop loss of 5 rupees...target of 209-213 [Mon Mar 30 23:37:29 PDT 2009] veerappan buy sbi 1030 range-1031- with sl 1015.... target of 1045-1052-1067...we need very strict stop loss... u can do it cash also according to fut rate... [Mon Mar 30 23:39:29 PDT 2009] ProTrader sl hit..rel cap [Mon Mar 30 23:40:19 PDT 2009] veerappan nf 3031- if u need take it [Mon Mar 30 23:40:39 PDT 2009] veerappan now c the rate of of capital 353.... this is chart work [Mon Mar 30 23:40:45 PDT 2009] lisha3000 ok veerappan ji. ibought @3015. Tks [Mon Mar 30 23:42:16 PDT 2009] veerappan 3034 ...woooooooooooooo and sbi 1037.... tisco 206 [Mon Mar 30 23:42:49 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Revesered Rel Cap at 349 [Mon Mar 30 23:45:04 PDT 2009] sayee veera can i buy sbi at 1035 [Mon Mar 30 23:45:56 PDT 2009] veerappan with same sl required sayeee [Mon Mar 30 23:46:02 PDT 2009] sayee ok [Mon Mar 30 23:46:34 PDT 2009] lisha3000 Veerappan ji r u getting me........ [Mon Mar 30 23:50:39 PDT 2009] veerappan tell me lisha3000 [Mon Mar 30 23:52:41 PDT 2009] lisha3000 just i ask [Mon Mar 30 23:52:55 PDT 2009] veerappan kotak bank buy 277 withs l 269.... target of 285-292 [Mon Mar 30 23:53:06 PDT 2009] veerappan with sl only u shd do... [Mon Mar 30 23:53:24 PDT 2009] veerappan 3035.4 deal done nifty woooooooooo [Mon Mar 30 23:53:35 PDT 2009] lisha3000 any bad news for Maruti....i got some short call from somebody [Mon Mar 30 23:53:42 PDT 2009] manoj_407 woooooooo [Mon Mar 30 23:55:11 PDT 2009] veerappan still its buy maruti... man no sell signal [Mon Mar 30 23:58:11 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV Veeru Rel Cap not moving still hold it ?? [Tue Mar 31 00:01:06 PDT 2009] lisha3000 ok fine [Tue Mar 31 00:03:04 PDT 2009] veerappan keep the sl sit tight praba.... [Tue Mar 31 00:05:57 PDT 2009] jimmie woooooooo veeru u rock |xx [Tue Mar 31 00:06:05 PDT 2009] veerappan buy hdfc bank 943 with sl 925- target of 958-963 [Tue Mar 31 00:06:07 PDT 2009] jimmie dont ask me money for wooo :P [Tue Mar 31 00:07:49 PDT 2009] veerappan buy aban risk and reward same now 380 with sl 370 - target of 392-403 [Tue Mar 31 00:11:55 PDT 2009] veerappan if u r in place dont ask veerru... take the money hhhaah l&t 676 [Tue Mar 31 00:11:57 PDT 2009] veerappan sbi 1040 [Tue Mar 31 00:12:00 PDT 2009] veerappan tisco 207.4 [Tue Mar 31 00:12:05 PDT 2009] veerappan nifty 3041 [Tue Mar 31 00:12:19 PDT 2009] veerappan rel capit 358 [Tue Mar 31 00:12:36 PDT 2009] veerappan we shd play on both ways... [Tue Mar 31 00:12:39 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV ::laugh [Tue Mar 31 00:12:41 PDT 2009] veerappan prab r u happy now 359 [Tue Mar 31 00:12:53 PDT 2009] kartik tiscoooooooo woooooooooo [Tue Mar 31 00:12:57 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV loss recovered in relcap [Tue Mar 31 00:13:33 PDT 2009] kartik gud day veeruji [Tue Mar 31 00:13:47 PDT 2009] jimmie veeru Tsl for Nf ? [Tue Mar 31 00:16:40 PDT 2009] ProTrader Veeru's Rule: Please move your Sl in profits or book profits if you need.. [Tue Mar 31 00:16:51 PDT 2009] veerappan sbiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 1047 [Tue Mar 31 00:17:01 PDT 2009] veerappan jims already u know man [Tue Mar 31 00:17:13 PDT 2009] veerappan kotak 281 [Tue Mar 31 00:17:52 PDT 2009] kartik sbin 1048 [Tue Mar 31 00:20:10 PDT 2009] veerappan hdfc bank 948 [Tue Mar 31 00:26:38 PDT 2009] jimmie but i need more profits :D [Tue Mar 31 00:26:43 PDT 2009] kartik aban 388 [Tue Mar 31 00:27:01 PDT 2009] veerappan hdfc bank 954 aban wooooooooooooooooooooooo [Tue Mar 31 00:27:39 PDT 2009] lisha3000 is this today's call veerappan ji [Tue Mar 31 00:28:09 PDT 2009] lisha3000 hdfc & aban [Tue Mar 31 00:28:45 PDT 2009] ProTrader Lisha3000: Please look at the room history for other calls since morning.. [Tue Mar 31 00:28:59 PDT 2009] lisha3000 k.......... [Tue Mar 31 00:29:20 PDT 2009] veerappan if and only if breaks 3003- then all gone... take care of that levels veeru may be bear... let us c [Tue Mar 31 00:33:58 PDT 2009] tripathi_manu kotak. [Tue Mar 31 00:36:48 PDT 2009] lisha3000 Veerappan ji any possible there to re enter on nifty again [Tue Mar 31 00:39:12 PDT 2009] lisha3000 Pt sir......... [Tue Mar 31 00:43:56 PDT 2009] veerappan no lisha as per my view [Tue Mar 31 00:44:34 PDT 2009] lisha3000 ok tks [Tue Mar 31 00:54:27 PDT 2009] veerappan above 390 aban may touch 415-425 range if u need sl 379 same sl now 386 ...some thing is coooking on upside on aban Aban [Tue Mar 31 00:57:49 PDT 2009] veerappan wooooooooooooooooooooo 395 [Tue Mar 31 00:57:52 PDT 2009] veerappan wooooooooooooooooooooooooo [Tue Mar 31 00:58:00 PDT 2009] veerappan aban Aban [Tue Mar 31 00:58:39 PDT 2009] jimmie wooooo nifty also [Tue Mar 31 00:58:58 PDT 2009] veerappan sssssssssssssss [Tue Mar 31 01:00:17 PDT 2009] veerappan tisco 209 [Tue Mar 31 01:01:46 PDT 2009] jimmie woooo [Tue Mar 31 01:05:45 PDT 2009] veerappan suzlong buy at 43.5 in cash just 500 shares withsl 42...take a risk of 750... upside 46-48-52- Cashhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [Tue Mar 31 01:06:20 PDT 2009] tripathi_manu aban [Tue Mar 31 01:06:35 PDT 2009] veerappan aban wooooooooooooooooooo hahahahaaha [Tue Mar 31 01:11:26 PDT 2009] kartik aban rocked gud one sirji [Tue Mar 31 01:13:26 PDT 2009] kartik tisco 211 [Tue Mar 31 01:14:57 PDT 2009] veerappan tisco 211 rel capital 363,... l&t 678 wow [Tue Mar 31 01:16:14 PDT 2009] veerappan sbi 1050 wow [Tue Mar 31 01:16:24 PDT 2009] veerappan kotak 283.5 [Tue Mar 31 01:18:01 PDT 2009] lisha3000 veerappan ji 1 doubt regarding suzlan shall i buy cmp or should wait till 43.50 pls [Tue Mar 31 01:18:31 PDT 2009] tripathi_manu lisha good Q. [Tue Mar 31 01:19:19 PDT 2009] lisha3000 answer pls......... [Tue Mar 31 01:22:42 PDT 2009] lisha3000 veeru pls....... [Tue Mar 31 01:34:15 PDT 2009] jimmie test [Tue Mar 31 01:34:32 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV pass [Tue Mar 31 01:34:34 PDT 2009] esb52 test...... [Tue Mar 31 01:35:04 PDT 2009] tripathi_manu ? [Tue Mar 31 01:36:04 PDT 2009] veerappan buy now At 42. 70 range with sl 42... dont carry -intra call [Tue Mar 31 01:36:21 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV seems Nf glued to 3030.30 [Tue Mar 31 01:36:25 PDT 2009] lisha3000 ok [Tue Mar 31 01:39:58 PDT 2009] esb52 ::beer [Tue Mar 31 01:40:58 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV now feviquicked to 3033.33 [Tue Mar 31 01:43:19 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV (NF Ns difference is just 2 rs ...is this sign of weekness?) [Tue Mar 31 01:43:52 PDT 2009] veerappan my view is now 3074 possible [Tue Mar 31 01:45:01 PDT 2009] esb52 hahahahahha [Tue Mar 31 01:52:18 PDT 2009] veerappan L&t 681 [Tue Mar 31 01:54:32 PDT 2009] veerappan 688 woooooooooooooooo [Tue Mar 31 01:55:21 PDT 2009] PVS veeru sir, i bought suzlon@42.70...sl-ok..target? [Tue Mar 31 01:55:29 PDT 2009] veerappan buy aban again 396 with sl 389 - target of 415 [Tue Mar 31 01:55:48 PDT 2009] veerappan already given man [Tue Mar 31 01:56:06 PDT 2009] veerappan buy reliance 1548 with sl 1532 target of 1565-1578 [Tue Mar 31 01:56:16 PDT 2009] veerappan l&t 692 hahahahaha [Tue Mar 31 01:56:24 PDT 2009] veerappan kotak 285 [Tue Mar 31 02:01:01 PDT 2009] esb52 test [Tue Mar 31 02:01:15 PDT 2009] tripathi_manu . [Tue Mar 31 02:01:28 PDT 2009] veerappan sbi 1055 [Tue Mar 31 02:01:46 PDT 2009] veerappan my eyes r c ing 3074 ... shall we c today [Tue Mar 31 02:07:52 PDT 2009] veerappan gtl infra buy 29.75 with sl 29 [Tue Mar 31 02:07:57 PDT 2009] veerappan target of 31-33 [Tue Mar 31 02:09:40 PDT 2009] veerappan sbi woooooooooooooooooooo 1065 [Tue Mar 31 02:09:48 PDT 2009] veerappan hdfc bank 955 [Tue Mar 31 02:10:04 PDT 2009] veerappan kotak 292 [Tue Mar 31 02:11:49 PDT 2009] jimmie wooo [Tue Mar 31 02:12:16 PDT 2009] jimmie where to book nf ? [Tue Mar 31 02:13:49 PDT 2009] jimmie Veeru great precision calls today |xx [Tue Mar 31 02:14:14 PDT 2009] jimmie will hold for 3074 :D [Tue Mar 31 02:19:36 PDT 2009] veerappan jims we need sl 3042 now [Tue Mar 31 02:20:33 PDT 2009] PRAB1EcV ::laugh [Tue Mar 31 02:20:35 PDT 2009] jimmie okie [Tue Mar 31 02:20:37 PDT 2009] jimmie :D [Tue Mar 31 02:25:24 PDT 2009] veerappan 1075 sbi [Tue Mar 31 02:29:01 PDT 2009] veerappan dont carry any posn [Tue Mar 31 02:31:06 PDT 2009] lisha3000 ........... [Tue Mar 31 02:33:28 PDT 2009] veerappan jimmie escaped? 3042 man just 3010 [Tue Mar 31 02:33:46 PDT 2009] jimmie yeah [Tue Mar 31 02:34:11 PDT 2009] ProTrader This is the importance of strict stop loss. [Tue Mar 31 02:34:17 PDT 2009] ProTrader Move Sl [Tue Mar 31 02:34:21 PDT 2009] ProTrader when in profit. [Tue Mar 31 02:35:18 PDT 2009] veerappan if u have not put sl then think about the market ... please do with sl... when u r in profit take it or put the sl on profit side [Tue Mar 31 02:37:10 PDT 2009] jimmie i didnt.. but escaped @ 3038 :d [Tue Mar 31 02:40:25 PDT 2009] veerappan but last 25 min i forgot to give sellling 3042... below what to do...some times it will happend .. now 35 pts gone - profit miissed.. [Tue Mar 31 02:48:23 PDT 2009] ProTrader How was the day today for everyone? [Tue Mar 31 02:49:07 PDT 2009] lisha3000 Gud For me [Tue Mar 31 02:49:24 PDT 2009] kartik very gud [Tue Mar 31 02:49:43 PDT 2009] rajmuthusamy Not a great day for me..because after axis bank, i did not follow Veeru's calls [Tue Mar 31 02:49:54 PDT 2009] rajmuthusamy axis bank - sl hit [Tue Mar 31 02:50:03 PDT 2009] rajmuthusamy i just stayed away for a day [Tue Mar 31 02:50:09 PDT 2009] rajmuthusamy will resume tomorrow [Tue Mar 31 02:50:18 PDT 2009] lisha3000 Maximum i never wait till target. [Tue Mar 31 02:50:32 PDT 2009] lisha3000 i book minimum profit in every trade [Tue Mar 31 02:52:53 PDT 2009] ProTrader Others.. [Tue Mar 31 02:54:03 PDT 2009] veerappan rajeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy [Tue Mar 31 02:54:23 PDT 2009] veerappan today maxi calls wooooooooooooooooooo [Tue Mar 31 02:54:48 PDT 2009] rajmuthusamy i know..but i lost sufficient money and need to stay away for today.. [Tue Mar 31 02:54:57 PDT 2009] rajmuthusamy i will start with fresh funds from tomorrow [Tue Mar 31 02:55:04 PDT 2009] rajmuthusamy hope u continue wooooooooo calls [Tue Mar 31 02:55:28 PDT 2009] nac8 taken ur call on gtl infra....still waiting [Tue Mar 31 02:56:19 PDT 2009] ProTrader nac8: other calls? [Tue Mar 31 02:57:09 PDT 2009] nac8 i had gone out so nothing much.... [Tue Mar 31 02:57:15 PDT 2009] ProTrader ok [Tue Mar 31 02:57:51 PDT 2009] nac8 shall i carry gtl for tommorow or take it out? [Tue Mar 31 02:58:23 PDT 2009] veerappan dont carry dont carry [Tue Mar 31 02:58:29 PDT 2009] nac8 ok [Tue Mar 31 02:58:42 PDT 2009] veerappan all maxi calls r intra only [Tue Mar 31 02:59:13 PDT 2009] veerappan raji for some time just do it in cash [Tue Mar 31 02:59:22 PDT 2009] veerappan luck shd change first [Tue Mar 31 03:00:17 PDT 2009] rajmuthusamy ok [Tue Mar 31 03:00:35 PDT 2009] rajmuthusamy my books for the month of march is horrible, will scare anyone [Tue Mar 31 03:00:50 PDT 2009] rajmuthusamy hope to start the fresh fy with positive growth [Tue Mar 31 03:01:09 PDT 2009] rajmuthusamy just added some cash to my books, will resume following your calls tomorrow [Tue Mar 31 03:02:16 PDT 2009] kartik i luved ur stock calls today. thank u [Tue Mar 31 03:02:28 PDT 2009] kartik carry on [Tue Mar 31 03:04:47 PDT 2009] manjunath2009 Great call veeru... [Tue Mar 31 03:05:46 PDT 2009] jimmie Great |xx